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So freedom, open society or democracy wont work in China because... Chinese people are inherently alcoholic, corrupt and sexually abusive to their employees?


The honest truth is liberal democracies do not come to fruition in vacuum, Elections are necessary but not sufficient condition for a functioning democracy. Afghanistan has multiple elections, Ukraine has elections, Iraq has elections, what is the state of affairs in these countries. There are subtle and messier parts in Democracy and every society cannot support it given their historical context - most societies have to evolve to certain point of maturity for democracy to take root and more years of practice of it to have it to work as intended.


It just sounds like excuses - which democratic country resolved all (or any?) of their problems with gender inequality, violence, alcohol, corruption etc. before instituting democracy?

In any case, Gmail is just one of many email tools - if Chinese people are so culturally unprepared to deal with Gmail, how are they culturally prepared to deal with QQ Mail, or Weibo/Weixin for that matter? This is just further censorship of a tool either for economic/protectionist reasons, or because it protects the CCP's hold on power. I'd struggle to see this as part of any plan to gradually implement democracy or as part of any uniquely 'Chinese' democratic development.


You do realize that china is one of the countries that has the best gender equality cultures right.....


Yes! I do know about this! One of the things Mao did which wasn't so bad was bring women into the workplace and breakdown some of the traditional gender barriers in the workplace.

I also know about the hugely chauvanistic social culture, the very traditional "women cook, clean and look after kids, men go out and work" family culture that exists in most places, the huge amount of undocumented domestic violence, a massive prostitution industry and a very weak legal framework through which women can seek redress for pay imbalance, domestic/sexual abuse etc. I also know that there's zero paternity leave, and typically only 3-4 months maternity pay for women, a long history of forced abortions and until 2003 women had to specifically ask permission from their (usually male) boss before they could get married! So yeah, I do know a bit about China's "gender equality" :)




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