But while the company still earns the majority of its revenue from advertising, during his tenure Page has helped to diversify the business. Notably, YouTube is expected to generate nearly $6 billion in revenue this year
Maybe I am being pedantic but aren't revenues from Youtube also based on advertising?
To the broader point though, why aren't more investors also putting money toward these "moonshots?" Is it because they don't have the liquidity to do it? Do they cost too much for the risk? If that were true then the Google's investments would be widely panned rather than held up as "making the right bets" as this article mentions.
It seems like these "singularity" technologies are the types of things that valley investors would be all over.
That probably should have said 'search advertising'. YouTube is a different type of advertising. Google needs to plan for a day when search advertising comes under attack from the next big thing. Maybe traditional search fades away, etc.
The interesting thing is that neither YouTube nor Google search have much user lock-in.
YouTube has content producer lock-in, which is tremendously helpful. And it may be that there's just no room for improvement massive enough to pull people away, that video delivery is close enough to its peak to not leave any room for real competition.
But if content was elsewhere, YouTube revenue would vanish very quickly indeed.
Search, on the other hand, still has massive room for improvement. Someone, somewhere will eventually do it. And there's nothing that would keep users on Google search when they do.
It's not like Facebook where's there's a huge network effect. Once there's a notably better search option, it wins very very quickly.
> Search, on the other hand, still has massive room for improvement.
This is true, but it's also a really hard problem and most likely any improvements will require enormous scale to implement (because they'll be based on statistical analysis of prior search queries), which only Google and a handful of others have. So no network effects, but huge economies of scale.
Plus, having used some other search engines (DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Bing, etc.), I feel that Google still has a comfortable lead than the competition.
25% of google searches are unique. I bet another 25% would be so rare and numerous you couldn't possibly have time to tune them. In fact, when you think about how much revenue a single search brings, a search is going to have to happen on the order of 1,000 times (at least?) before you can have a human hand tuning them.
That's from 2007. I wonder how much Google's autocomplete has changed that statistic. Even still, 25% of searches may be unique strings, but I doubt 25% of searches are meaningfully/semantically unique.
> Search, on the other hand, still has massive room for improvement.
Broadly agree.
For what Google does in search, say, first-cut,
keywords/phrases and results sorted by
a measure of gross popularity, page rank,
and date (but, for a second-cut, clearly
now with a lot of refining tweaks), it seems
to me that they are doing a terrific job.
But as far as I can tell, Bing is doing
about the same.
So, if are looking for something, have a few
keywords/phrases that fairly accurately
characterize what want, then Google/Bing
can work well. They can be just terrific.
But that scenario does at
best poorly on a significant fraction of
("safe for work") search.
For this fraction, there are a lot of approaches,
Web sites, etc. but nothing very good.
For this fraction, I worked out some new
techniques and wrote the corresponding software.
For where Google/Bing work well, and often they
are just terrific, my work will usually
not be as good and only occasionally better.
But for nearly all of the fraction of "at best poorly",
my work should be quite good and much
better than anything else. My work is
different, very different, and I believe that
being so different is necessary
(clearly not sufficient) for success in
the fraction I am attacking.
Currently I'm loading some initial data. Then ...,
maybe people will like it.
Of course, with all the usual start-up advice,
my work is doomed to fail because I'm
a solo founder if don't count my kitty
cats! And, I'm not a college dropout.
I didn't even drop out of grad school and
did get my Ph.D. And I'm past 30. So,
right, doomed!
But being successful at what I'm attempting
would be exceptional; so we have to expect
that much of my project is not the usual.
So be it. I have some fairly good reasons
to believe that my work should be successful;
no way am I doing this just "on a wing and
a prayer".
What do you think? Announce a private beta
test here on HN? Get feedback? Get it
working well. Polish the UI/UX. Go live,
get more publicity, run ads, grow?
One of the biggest lock-ins for Google search and YouTube, are the moats around the services (the moat being how hard and expensive it is to build a legitimate competitor).
To compete with Google search you need... perhaps billions in funding to build the scale, speed, accuracy, redundancy, distribution, etc.
To compete with YouTube, you need to spend incredible sums of money to host and stream 720 or 1080 videos; the volume of content uploads; and then to be able to afford all the lawsuits that come with the business regarding content. That's a billion dollars in financing just to get up to proper YouTube punching weight.
The same is true of Facebook. One of its best shields, is the immense cost and scaling challenge to handle a billion users, regardless of if it's gradual. It's incredibly difficult to do well, and with the reliability that Facebook has always had.
Exactly this, I use youtube because everything I want to watch is only on youtube, I use facebook because everyone I want to keep in touch with is only on facebook, I use search because because it's a good product and not because something external is forcing me to use it. If a better search comes along I'm gone in a second.
If you're locked into the google ecosystem, switching is that much harder. Searching from Chrome, Android, Gmail... Google Search would have a continuity savings.
content producr lock-in, is from some contract, technological issue or just ubiquity of Youtube? If Facebook starts its video service pushed heavily on Fb, it will get eyeballs, what is stopping it?
The next "big thing" was supposed to be Siri, Cortana etc which are built into the OS and don't interact with Google. And there has been curious examples of Apple crawling web sites.
Traditional search will never fade away, it'll be diluted. It's the same premise as what's happening to Microsoft with Windows, or Intel with the 'old style' CPU. The traditional desktop type OS isn't going to disappear, as people have been regularly and incorrectly claiming for ~20 years - it's going to be / has been diluted in terms of usage and importance.
Why didn't investors put money toward creating the real actual moonshot? Because, amazing idea that it was, there was no sustainable business there.
Just because an idea is inspiring, amazing, even culturally transformative, that doesn't mean it can be a business. And generally speaking, investors are only interested in ideas that can be businesses. (That's what makes them investors instead of philanthropists...or politicians.)
Here's another reason--new technologies don't always win, because older technologies improve too. When I was editing a tech e-newsletter over a decade ago, a major hot new technology was called organic light-emitting diodes (OLED). This display technology had a huge viewing angle, did not need a backlight, and was super power efficient. It could be printed onto plastic substrates that were flexible and even translucent. It was going to kill the LCD.
Except, it didn't. LCDs improved fast enough to hold onto the market--they got LED backlights, power efficiency, higher and higher resolutions, better viewing angles, better colors, and (maybe most importantly) cheaper and cheaper and cheaper because the volumes were so huge. And it turned out that OLED's had some problems that were not so easily solved. So while OLED is used commercially today, the volumes are small. LCDs, so far, have kept on winning.
The time horizon for moonshots is way too long for the average VC. Google started working on autonomous cars c. 2010, and I'd be fairly astonished if they're available for sale to the general public by 2020.
Google is a public company, and I think the average Wall Street investor is even more 'short-term' than VCs. In fact, it should be a surprise that investors are not questioning such spending. What insulates these moonshot projects from investor ire is that as an expense, they are only a very small part of the total revenue of Google.
Page is shielded from such investors by a Board of Directors. Presumably they have a better understanding of Google's long-term vision. It's also worth keeping in mind that Google performs extremely well even viewed from short-term metrics.
I could see them partnering with Tesla or some other forward thinking automaker in the near future. It would be a very large investment to also build their own cars which probably wouldn't pay off as well as a partnership.
Well some startups that were making progress towards these moonshot ideas have been bought by Google. Also, they have a significant portion of the world's smartest human beings. But there are exceptions; there are companies, big ones and startups, that are working on self-driving cars, cancer-detecting nanotechnologies, high-altitude balloon-based Internet, robotics, home automation, etc.
Thinking further into this question you've posed...there has been a lot of discussion here on HN about how hardware is harder to work with than software. Whether this is true in anything other than for psychological or cultural reasons, who knows. But certainly there is more 'entropy' with your invested failures along the road to success and it's not as simple as deleting or cutting and pasting LOC in a computer file. Hardware is material.
>To the broader point though, why aren't more investors also putting money toward these "moonshots?"
Because only ultra-large, incredibly-rich companies can afford to have seriously large investments fail quite this often. Which is not to say they're a bad idea! This is how blue-sky research works.
Maybe I am being pedantic but aren't revenues from Youtube also based on advertising?
To the broader point though, why aren't more investors also putting money toward these "moonshots?" Is it because they don't have the liquidity to do it? Do they cost too much for the risk? If that were true then the Google's investments would be widely panned rather than held up as "making the right bets" as this article mentions.
It seems like these "singularity" technologies are the types of things that valley investors would be all over.