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> However, we're not talking about science as a discipline ...

I have to say that, when I use the word "science", I'm not talking about scientists, but scientific principles. I do this because science exists primarily to defend against all the ways scientists will get it wrong without the discipline science provides.

> We're talking about the community of human beings within the scientific community.

It is because of that "community" and its foibles that science exists and has its present form.

> If you don't believe that, you have a far higher opinion of human nature than is warranted.

I hope you see now that it's exactly the reverse of your assumption.



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