Should be done? Lol. Talking about culture ethnocentrism taking to the extreme. No one forces you not to take your kid to bed at 8, or you for that matter. Stay out of my life.
The anglosphere is so full of authoritarian people wanting to get into people's lives and even when arguing against surveillance you think there's an agreeable common goal we should all strive to. No. We don't.
Ironically enough I’ve found Americans to be by far the most resistant to authority, both societal and governmental. Maybe what’s shining through from your comment isn’t how you live in a less authoritarian environment, but that its mores just happen to align with yours so you’re blind to them.
No. Another one who doesn't get it. It shouldn't be done.
The problem is that you don't get it. You think that saying "we all agree on X but it's bad for society" gets you to eventually acknowledge there's a safer way to do X, at least partially.
I'm saying you shouldn't even pretend the first statement is acceptable and that implementation is the problem .
Now, that's very nuanced for some and I'll get the "you're missing the point, he doesn't want surveillance".
The point you are missing is that he presented what he knew to be norms and used language to indicate that they are norms (should vs must) and you are somehow confused into thinking that he presented them as inalienable facts. Commenters thought that if they pointed out the nuance of normative assertion vs enforcement you would see the distinction but you continue to fail to distinguish a normative assertion from a factual one.
I also disagree with you that widespread agreement on norms is some problematic slippery slope. Failure to distinguish between norms and objectivity as you are doing is what leads to widespread norms being enforced absurdly by a tyranny of the majority.
I understand your point and if that were the case I'd accept it as valid but I'm not the only one in my interpretation, judging by other comments affirming the points of things that "should happen".
>I also disagree with you that widespread agreement on norms is some problematic slippery slope. Failure to distinguish between norms and objectivity as you are doing is what leads to widespread norms being enforced absurdly by a tyranny of the majority.
Objectivity huh? Tyranny of the majority huh? Why do I have the feeling you're generalizing some specific partisan/personal problem and you'd rather not discuss the specific because it's then less defensible?
I'll call and raise a self-centered tyranny of the anglosphere.
The anglosphere is so full of authoritarian people wanting to get into people's lives and even when arguing against surveillance you think there's an agreeable common goal we should all strive to. No. We don't.