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> "someone making 300,000 probably doesn't have much more disposable income than someone making 80,000"

I don't think that's borne out by the stats. As I recall fixed costs essentially flat-line as a percentage of income somewhere south of 200k, up until you reach the "don't look at prices anymore" brackets. Also, I note that it really doesn't take much more disposable income to add flashy consumption. Five thousand dollars is easily two annual trips to Hawaii, which -- while not remotely a trivial amount of money -- really isn't that hard to sock away at 300k vs 80k. And two additional annual vacations at 300k is certainly going to look like 'whimsical' to the guy making 80k who takes one real vacation a year.

So I'm wondering if we aren't having a disagreement on definitions. And when you say 'hawaii on whim', you're thinking about trips approaching the opulence of the "don't look at prices anymore" brackets?



"So I'm wondering if we aren't having a disagreement on definitions."

I think it mostly depends on whether or not you have kids. Kids can basically eat up an unlimited amount of money.


Absolutely.

When I made a third of my current salary range, I felt well off. Now I have kids and feel poor.


I don't even make 80K USD, but living in the UK and thus with more vacation time (25 days), even I take at least 3 holidays abroad every year.


I make 13K USD, and I took 2 holidays abroad :)

(where abroad is Brazil and Argentina, since I live in Uruguay)

I know that people in the US have half the holiday time that I have, but they should be able to have the money to enjoy what time they do have.


> Five thousand dollars is easily two annual trips to Hawaii

Have to nitpick here. $5k is one average Hawaii vacation for a couple. It costs almost $2k just to fly out there.


Right now it would cost me about $400 roundtrip to Hawaii. The flights are a lot cheaper than they used to be.




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