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> On the other hand the rest of your post discusses the value created out of a failed company which wasn't related to the context of my post.

"not relevant"? The entire point of my response was to point out that the fundamental flaw in your argument is that you are ignoring the wider effects of the business process, while the "failure is success" mentality is all about taking into consideration those same wider effects.

> If you're stating that you're going to greatly enjoy your failure, how is that not making failure seem good? Can you greatly enjoy something that you don't consider awesome.

You don't enjoy the failure, but you can still enjoy the process that happens to lead to the failure, and the net outcome can still be positive. Once again: the mentality you're attempting to criticise is all about accounting for the entire process and all of its outcomes, and not narrow-mindedly focusing on just the financial outcome for the business.

> I think we're going to be arguing in straw man circles

If you continue to insist on equivocating between financial failure of the business (an individual outcome) and the holistic outcome of the entire process, yes. Well, I won't bother to continue responding, but that's beside the point.



> You don't enjoy the failure, but you can still enjoy the process that happens to lead to the failure, and the net outcome can still be positive.

But like I said you're adding your own words / perspective to the post. None of this was said nor implied hence:

>> I think we're going to be arguing in straw man circles




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