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Also, what will police do when they can't count on almost everyone carrying a state-issued ID card on them at all times? Dollars to doughnuts (no pun intended), carrying ID will become mandatory as driver's licenses become less common.


Eh. I live in London. Many (most?) people don't drive. No mandatory ID laws. Society continues to function.


Not yet, but wasn't there recently a big national ID program enacted and then repealed? Eventually people will be too weary to push back.

In the US, it's very common for police to "request" identification in routine encounters with pedestrians and fly off the handle if they don't get what they want. People say it's a post-9/11 world, but this happened to me many times in the '90s.


> Not yet, but wasn't there recently a big national ID program enacted and then repealed? Eventually people will be too weary to push back.

The then-government announced a proposal. They were opposed by the other main parties, and voted out at the next election. Prediction is hard, but I don't see it happening.


It was more than a proposal, the cards were available and some people received them.

All this was before immigration became such a hot topic, I could see mandatory ID being proposed again in the UK.


As I understand it, you cannot refuse to identify yourself, but you don't have to produce ID if you don't have it on you.


You don't need to carry a driving license even if you do drive. If you're stopped and don't have your documents then the police can issue a HO/RT1 notice, which requires you to present your license and your MOT and insurance certificates at a police station within seven days. Carrying those documents in your car can save you an errand, but it isn't legally required.




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