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But largely supported by people that would call themselves actual Christians FYI, and not even right wing extremist either.

You know what Jesus said about hypocrites. How they self-identify is unimportant if they harm their neighbor at every opportunity they get.

Because my time is valuable and if the person who sent me something didn't care enough to write it, then I don't care enough to read it.

Bragging about it is weird, but I will use it like I use 'RTFM'.

And detectability - My AI-DAR (radar), is fairly fined tuned but not perfect, so if I make a mistake, oh well, the point is I'm protecting my time.


So how much time do you deem a minimum amount for someone to spend on some unit of work before you're willing to read it? And what technologies are allowed -- are word processors allowed or does it have to be done with a writing instrument like a pencil? What about spell check? Do you care if they had done their research with a Wikipedia or do you prefer card catalog for the really important work?


I'm not sure. Another way to think about it: how _little_ time is someone able to spend on something where you will still be interested in reading it? If someone tells their unattended LLM agent to create a blog, write whatever content will maximize banner ad revenue, and then share each post on Hacker News, would you read it? What if the content is actually interesting in your opinion?


For me, the amount of time could be very minimal. A person can splash some paint on a canvas, tape a banana to a wall, press a shutter, or write 14 syllables and if it's well considered then that can be enough. Time spent just doesn't play into it for me, unless that's actually part of the point.

> If someone tells their unattended LLM agent to create a blog, write whatever content will maximize banner ad revenue, and then share each post on Hacker News, would you read it? What if the content is actually interesting in your opinion?

Yes, I think if one of that content had a headline that interested me I would definitely click on it, because that's already happened!


Why would PayPal acquiring OpenRouter make it any more of a monopoly than it is? Not saying it is or isn't, but OpenRouter isn't even a financial company.


I am saying it is a near monopoly as Stripe is the one that is close to acquiring PayPal in the first place. [0]

[0] https://www.wsj.com/business/deals/stripe-advent-in-talks-to...


exactly


gotcha, so the vulnerability will be in some common libraries that attackers force some wasm fallback path with custom wasm instructions that when executed does something nefarious.

I'd say at worst it's setup for poor security


Or if the author mocked out what each of the bad examples should look like if done properly.


I agree it's not a complete solution. But as those don't exist as a society we are looking for a step function in the right direction. and IMO this is one such step. You may disagree that it's not a very large step, but I would argue it's still in the right direction therefore it is neccesary, especially in education space, and I'm happy to see someone publishing at attempt.


Love this, simulations are great. My nit pick is around how fast these animations are. You blink and you miss it. I can imagine children having more difficult time with this than myself as an adult. (For context I started with the sound animations: The Invisible Dance -- Shape the Wave & The Journey)


will work on slowing it down


This is the correct answer and is being used by teacher friends of mine with great success.

The structure they chose is in-class work counts for 80%+ of their grade. All work in class is done with pencil & paper. Quite simple in fact to solve a large part of the homework cheating issue.


that does mean that there is less classroom time devoted to lecture or other activities though if the teacher is supervising drills and group work, but it might be the only realistic way to proceed


> I can't concieve even the flimsiest of reasons why anyone would ever listen to (or license/sync/track/ ) any of those generated songs once the novelty of "music made by the AI" is gone.

Easy: Independent/single-dev operations needing some quick background music for a project (game, whatever)


This is already easily solved by using royalty-free music or by licensing pre-made music from numerous publicly available sound libraries online -- with the added benefit of supporting actual musicians instead of plagiarist tech middlemen.


I think you got this wrong. Usually you use one electronic musician to create all the background music (or license pre-existing popular music), and with music AI you make that musician more productive. It is not like non-musicians will even be able to select the bad from the good of the AI output. It takes a trained ear to build functional AI music as well.

Nobody will hire live studio musicians or a symphony orchestra to create background music. Way too expensive.


What exactly am I getting wrong? You insisting that nobody hires studio musicians or orchestras, and claiming that "usually you hire one electronic musician" are both demonstrably false opinions that have almost no relation to my point that background music is obtainable through on-demand licensed libraries.


Also: People (especially kids, students, etc) who want to make music but don't have the technical expertise to (yet?).

Obviously these tools don't do everything necessary to make great music, but the barrier of entry to making music is being lowered, and the quality floor is being raised -- and that'll result in a lot more would-be "musicians"[0] creating music that wouldn't otherwise exist[1].

[0] I leave the argument of whether these generative musicians count as "real" musicians to the Scotsmen in the audience.

[1] Bonus question: does art still hold value if no one sees it?


The creator sees/hears it! (and if they don't it really shouldn't have been generated lol, waste of compute)


o1's take on your bonus question seems reasonable :

Yes. Art can have intrinsic and personal value for its creator, independent of any external audience. Unseen art lacks immediate external value [to others] but retains latent worth, potentially realized when discovered or appreciated in the future.


This comes up quite a lot - lowering the barrier to entry for creating a bunch of media that wouldn't otherwise exist.

Eh I don't think the world is exactly clamoring for even more music.

I can't speak for everyone's process, but if you don't know how to make music, I'm not convinced that this allows you to do so because the medium of input (aka writing text) is far too divergent from the resultant melodic output to allow for any kind of meaningful individuality.


> Also: People (especially kids, students, etc) who want to make music but don't have the technical expertise to (yet?).

But fuck all the people who have a career teaching them those skills as a part of a thousands-year long artistic tradition whose value isn't solely defined by the exchange of currency for lessons, but in that it subsidizes those artists' work which goes unpaid and furthers human experience.

It's wonderful techies with a surface level knowledge of the arts are cannibalizing the entire supply chain and marketplace so they can make a buck off the AI craze.

The barrier to entry is already zero. AI lowers the ceiling, not the floor.


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