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1.IBM takes first 3D image of atomic bonds (gizmodo.com)
149 points by jedliu on Aug 27, 2009 | 49 comments
2.Results of The Hacker Survey (davelyon.net)
107 points by tialys on Aug 27, 2009 | 57 comments
3.Why I Won't Use Rimuhosting (aaronsw.com)
105 points by joao on Aug 27, 2009 | 123 comments
4.Snaptalent Lesson One: Know Your Market (jamiequint.posterous.com)
105 points by bdr on Aug 27, 2009 | 19 comments
5.Teaching Ruby to High School Girls (railsbridge.org)
93 points by whalesalad on Aug 27, 2009 | 47 comments
6.Hall of Shame: companies violating the ffmpeg license (GPL/LGPL) (ffmpeg.org)
85 points by mbrubeck on Aug 27, 2009 | 41 comments
7.Create and share diagrams by writing sentences (diagrammr.com)
79 points by ssn on Aug 27, 2009 | 35 comments
8.MongoDB 1.0 released (mongodb.org)
75 points by paulsmith on Aug 27, 2009 | 10 comments

What's with the 'living with his mom'? Where else would you expect a 15 year old to live?
10.Porn collection put people off upgrading to Firefox 3 (pcpro.co.uk)
67 points by jedliu on Aug 27, 2009 | 32 comments
11.Cat Parasite Affects Everything We Feel and Do (abcnews.go.com)
67 points by mattmaroon on Aug 27, 2009 | 46 comments

I trust security advice from tptacek or cperciva more than from [name withheld until you vote].

Threads get really confusing when [name withheld until you vote] argues with himself all the time.


I am in India now, so was sleeping as this thread happened :-)

I hang out at Hacker News a lot, in fact, almost everyday I send an article to someone or other in the company. I strongly recommend it internally - I love HN (thanks, pg!).

To answer some of the questions: Zoho Corp used to be known as AdventNet. It was bootstrapped from the beginning (1996). Zoho is the latest and the fastest growing division; while we do not reveal our revenues, all I can say is that we are very happy where the Zoho division, as well as the whole company, has gotten. We have solid profits, which we invest in doing interesting new things.

Bootstrapping works, but you have to be very patient. It has taken us 13 years to get here. The fun part is that we now have the human capital as well as the financial capital (the first part is more important) to do a lot of interesting things, and we don't have to worry about VCs or Wall-Street (not that there is anything wrong with them ;-))

On the product side, Zoho has been evolving rapidly, reaching that polish and maturity in stages. If you had tried us 2 years ago, I wouldn't blame you for giving up on us. We are far, far better today - one proof point is that our company, of about 1000 people, has moved to Zoho almost entirely. There are some small bits and pieces that are not on Zoho, but by end of 2009 everything should move. The tools we use extensively within include Mail, Office suite, CRM, Project Management, Meetings, Creator ... just to give an example, we run well over 100 web meetings a day on Zoho Meeting ourselves. We used to pay WebEx about $25-30K per month, and our usage on Zoho Meeting would cost us about $3-4K if we were to charge ourselves. I say that to explain why we have paying customers.

Why the diversified suite? It is not only diversification, it is also a source of differentiation. We believe we can create very compelling integration scenarios that bring substantial productivity increases. One recent example is our Zoho CRM + Mail integration, which has sold over 1000 customers in the 8 weeks or so it has been released. You will see many more such things rolled out, partly addressing the criticism that it has been a fragmented suite.

So how do we do it? Silicon valley style flexible culture mated with Japanese style patient engineering. There are huge lessons to learn from Japan's post-War leap. As one example, Japanese companies (the giants of today) always had a train-your-own-talent policy. Their colleges most certainly didn't do it - for the most part, college in Japan is considered relaxation time before the real work begins. We dispense with what I believe to be non-essential parts of Japanese experience, like the rigid discipline, substitute it with silicon valley style flexibility.

The one achievement I am proud of is not a product or technology: it is our "University" (as we call it) where we recruit and train 17 year olds - the typical school leaving age in much of India. About 100 of our 1000 employees have come from that program now, and it is growing fast. Longer term, we should get 30-50% of our talent pool directly out of high school.

I have written extensively about it. Let me summarize: I do not believe in college. I believe most real education happens in the work-place, an observation Peter Drucker made originally. I regret going to college myself - we would have been 10x bigger if I hadn't gone to college, so that is my opportunity cost. I probably wouldn't have if I had grown up in America.

Sorry for the long comment. I wanted to answer all the posted questions in one shot.

14.Sales figures for the #2 iPhone app (taptaptap.com)
61 points by EtienneJohnred on Aug 27, 2009 | 22 comments
15.The Todo.txt Command Line Interface (CLI) (ginatrapani.github.com)
61 points by mlLK on Aug 27, 2009 | 18 comments
16.Fog detected on Titan (mikebrownsplanets.com)
61 points by spudlyo on Aug 27, 2009 | 6 comments
17.Caml trading – experiences with functional programming on Wall Street [pdf] or (janestreetcapital.com)
60 points by mbrubeck on Aug 27, 2009 | 10 comments

While we're on the topic of suggestions that aren't likely to be implemented ;)

I like to see the user name hidden on comments and submissions until after you vote and/or reply. Judge the content on the content alone, not on the author.


The whole idea of "Karma" is silly. It encourages conforming to majority views and rewards people who are talkative rather than insightful - often mutually exclusive groups, since insight is gained by thinking & doing rather than posting comments.

I think HN would do well to drop karma scores altogether, making this script a non-issue to begin with.

20.Chicago's top crime blogger is a 16-year-old with autism living with his mom (timeout.com)
55 points by brandnewlow on Aug 27, 2009 | 24 comments
21.Ask HN: Where do you find clients?
54 points by bendtheblock on Aug 27, 2009 | 31 comments
22.Django-SocialAuth - Login via twitter, facebook, google, etc. from single app (uswaretech.com)
53 points by naish on Aug 27, 2009 | 20 comments
23.Air-powered LEGO V8 engine running at 1440 rpm (vid) (nicjasno.com)
53 points by TriinT on Aug 27, 2009 | 9 comments
24.Self-Discipline Outdoes IQ in Predicting Academic Performance of Adolescents (upenn.edu)
52 points by tokenadult on Aug 27, 2009 | 47 comments
25.A Prolog Introduction for Hackers (kuro5hin.org)
52 points by marshallp on Aug 27, 2009 | 13 comments
26.Maemo 5 and Nokia n900 press release (nokia.com)
51 points by kasunh on Aug 27, 2009 | 27 comments
27.A chess engine in 1326 bytes (110mb.com)
50 points by fizx on Aug 27, 2009 | 16 comments
28.Inside the Cafe at Facebook Headquarters (foodgal.com)
50 points by jakarta on Aug 27, 2009 | 41 comments
29.World faces hi-tech crunch as China eyes ban on rare metal exports (telegraph.co.uk)
47 points by bd on Aug 27, 2009 | 37 comments
30.Whoa, this is heavy: brain equates weight with importance (trueslant.com)
47 points by neuroworld on Aug 27, 2009 | 39 comments

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